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Intergovernmental
Conference in Nice: Impressions (english trans/front)
by
IMC-France 9:02am Wed Dec 13 '00 |
translation@indymedia.org |
Summary by France-IMC
of the protests in Nice. (1) Freedom of movement,
expression, and protest ridiculed (2) Witnesses
and journalists were prevented from shooting videos. (3)
arbitrary arrests and convictions (4) Unkept
Promises: civil force observers were not welcome (5)
The conditions in Nice that aided or caused the confrontations
trans. by Julie Rose
france.indymedia.org/
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We are all over
the world. We are the intelegent individuals
and groups that can see where corperations are trying to lead
us. We are not the blind mass that immediately
believe newspaper and television reports. It
is us who are burdened with anger for being able to see and acknowledge
the poor behaviour of the rich and powerfull. We
are the people who speak out, and as a result in many cases we
learn more and grow more from the communication we have with
the other people we are in contact with through our protests.
I was at the Melbourne S11
protest against te holding of the World Ecconomic Forum. That was three months ago. I am still traumertised
by the event, however it took me two months to realise it. Be
aware that the events you have all been involved in while vital
to your cause, can cause traumer in the future, and make sure
you keep in contact with friends who can help you.
Remember: The people being protested
against have many lives in their greedy little hands, and we,
THE PEOPLE did not vote them in. We know right
from wrong even if they don't, even if the blind masses don't
yet.
I am a peacefull protester
I was beaten by the people who are there to
protect me (the police) I am still a peacefull
proester, but I am also a human being. I am
angry
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What is particularly
interesting--but certainly not surprising--about these impressions
is the apparent collusion among (1) the European state machines
(French, Italian, Spanish, etc) (2) the various European corporations
and (3) the local city law enforcement agencies (Paris, Nice,
Bordeaux, Lyons etc)- a -collusion against the international
protesters. And as always, the state repressors are never afraid
to go after the media, especially video shooting media. It is
also a little disturbing that all these events happened in France,
a country that has always prided itself to opening up its borders
to the disenfranchised: to for instance, the many African-American
writers and jazz musicians who flooded Paris in the 30s and 40s,
and still even today.
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SDF = sans
domicile fixe, NOT police officer
by
sdf 6:08pm Wed Dec 13 '00 |
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translation
comment:
SDF = sans domicile
fixe = person of no fixed abode =
homeless person
An SDF is
not (usually) a law enforcement officer.
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Thanks for
the SDF Translation Correx
by
Julie Rose 8:54pm Wed Dec 13 '00 |
address:
New York City julierose@onebox.com |
Thanks for that
correction of (SDF) Sans domicile fixe. My mistake. I knew that.
Thanks again!
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Fellow activists:
You are invited to join a
new email list for discussion of activist "violence"
and "nonviolence" at the current large mobilizations
(J18, S26, J20, etc). All perspectives are
welcome.
You can subscribe
by sending a blank email to
v-nv-mobilize-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
or by visiting
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/v-nv-mobilize
Do not "Reply" to join the list.
GENERAL INFO
WHY THIS NEW LIST? SECURITY
FORWARDING THIS INVITATION
GENERAL INFO
The goal of v-nv-mobilize is to facilitate a respectful,
international dialog on activist "violence"/"nonviolence",
in which people of differing views can learn from one another,
and people of similar views can discuss how to act on them. (Quotation
marks are used here for the sake of openness, to recognize the
many uses of these words. This is not a convention others need
follow.)
Since mid-January
of 2001, this invitation has been sent to over 500 people, lists,
and organizations, representing a wide range of: *
geographical locations * issues of primary
focus * political views *
positions on "violence"/"nonviolence" * types of involvement in the mobilizations.
The list is unmoderated -- which
means self-moderated -- with an open subscription policy. Its
primary language is English.
v-nv-mobilize
is for examination of activist "violence"/"nonviolence"
as a movement issue, across different mobilizations. Practical
applications will hopefully be discussed, but this is not the
primary organizing list for any mobilization.
v-nv-mobilize focuses on the "violence"
and "nonviolence" of activists, because it is a list
for activists (in the broadest sense), and aims to help us direct
our own movement. The "violence" or "nonviolence"
of police and the prisons are uncontroversial among activists,
and are widely addressed on the internet. The same is not the
case with our own behavior.
WHY THIS NEW LIST?
There
have been all kinds of activist "violence" and "nonviolence"
at the mobilizations of the past two years. v-nv-mobilize was
inspired by -- but is not limited to! -- some of the events at
S26 Prague: activist/independent media reports were that a small
minority of activists threw cobblestones and Molotov cocktails
at police, and similarly attacked delegates, injuring tens of
people, at least two seriously.
Research
for this list turned up numerous accounts of and reactions to
these events, but hardly any extended discussion, especially
of activist "violence"/"nonviolence" as a
general issue for the movement.
During
that research, another example of "violence" occurred
at N30 (2000) Nice, where activist/independent sources reported
that some activists started a fire at a bank, and then drove
off firefighters by throwing rocks.
Note: v-nv-mobilize is not concerned only with these
potentially lethal actions; they serve as dramatic examples to
argue that we activists should be talking more about the whole
spectrum of our "violence"/"nonviolence"
at the mobilizations.
And
to repeat, the goal of v-nv-mobilize is to bring all sides together,
not to advance one view of the issue. All perspectives on activist
"violence"/"nonviolence" deserve public discussion
in depth, due to their significance in: * movement
strategy and tactics * mobilization organizing
* media and other outreach *
(for some people) morality and spirituality.
(By the way, if you are aware of such a dialog
occurring elsewhere, please post its location to v-nv-mobilize.)
So why
are these matters not more talked about? To be sure, each mobilization
is different, and where there is less likelihood of serious "violence",
it is understandable that there is less attention paid to the
issue. But these mobilizations are part of a common movement,
however it is understood: what happens in Prague affects what
happens in Washington DC and vice versa, on the streets and in
the conference rooms.
Three
other reasons to avoid this challenging topic come up often:
1) "Let's not divide ourselves."
2) "Let's focus on the practicalities
of organizing, not on abstractions." 3)
"Our view on "violence"/"nonviolence"
is settled. There's no need for dialog with other groups."
Each of these points may
be valid for some people and some forums. But v-nv-mobilize is
a list for people who feel differently.
SECURITY v-nv-mobilize
is essentially public, as is its archive. Eddresses will be concealed
in the archive and the members list, but not in the "From"
field of postings. This will hopefully prevent people's eddresses
from being "harvested", but it will not provide real
"security". Bear this in mind at all times.
The lack of security does favor
people of the "nonviolent" view, especially among those
who live under more repressive states, because they may feel
more free to express themselves. But the research for this invitation
turned up many groups whose websites or lists approve of or advocate
revolutionary "violence", so hopefully these people
will feel just as free to express themselves on this list.
Note: the public nature of the
list has security benefits. Non-members can post to the list
from a "secure" or anonymous account, and can read
the replies in the archive via the web.
FORWARDING THIS INVITATION Please forward this invitation to anyone you think
would be interested. But many people, lists and organizations
have already received it. So you will minimize duplicate postings
by forwarding only to the following: people you know personally;
organizations or lists you're involved with which have not received
the invitation; organizations which have no website.
Thank you for reading.
May this list serve us well --
and the movement.
alyosha
Witness listworker
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